The main difference between boxing and MlB,NBA, and NFL, is that it doesn't have that somebody to make sure the rules are being properly applied. Please let me explain it to him, once he replies. 10-9 Lara. 73 of Canelo's 88 landed punches were body shots. God forbid if any judge scores so much as a round against you. (even if you have nothing to be sorry for). ThrowdownFantasy.com...Draft fighters...track stats...win $$$. Lara starts off strong, schooling Alvarez for portions of the first several rounds; however, Alvarez slows him down with a body assault over the next several. Erislandy Lara shoots a right hand during his fight against Saul "Canelo” Alvarez in Las Vegas on July 12, 2014. How is your boxing going? You said that person would look like an even better boxer but often-times that's not the case. Previously, he held the WBA light middleweight title from 2014 to 2018 (promoted to Super champion in 2016), and the IBO light middleweight title from 2015 to 2018. I gave the 50/50 rounds to Canelo simply because he did not run run run run. There is also the popular boxer that fans are blinded by and will make fans look at matches differently. They have no ideas of their own in terms of boxing and whose winning and why. I think that maybe Garcia should give Herrera or Matthysse a rematch instead of fighting Rod Salka and Salka could face Trout instead. Lara probably would like a redo of round four: he landed just 3 of 20 punches. Canelo Alvarez meets Erislandy Lara in a battle of the top two Junior Middleweight contenders. Lara had the edge in total punches landed, Canelo had the edge in power shots landed. There have been many cases where fighters have faded into obscurity and that one robbery throws off their momentum and they can't get it back. Floyd won the first fight because of his percentage. read more. At least if it is a robbery then it will go down as a robbery and if a fight is labelled that way then if anything the man who is robbed will seem like an even better fighter. Austin Trout has got an upcoming fight. Do you reckon a world title will be held by a boxer by the name of Alex Farley in about 10 years or so? I never saw Herrera vs Alvarado (honestly didn't even know it was a robbery)but in his last fight with Perez he looked very impressive by being very active and always keeping on the pressure (I had it 115-113) I believe judging a fighter by his record is always a HUGE mistake. I know he beat Provodnikov but I heard that he was robbed against Alvarado and maybe one other fighter. Álvarez rehydrated to 171 lbs while Lara came into the ring at 166 lbs. Saul Alvarez W 12 (spl) Erislandy Lara 07/12/2014 Las Vegas. I would also say that most of the people that voted for Canelo on this site are also in casual fan category. I'm sorry mattgalvin for harassing you. Monzon, Greb, Tunney, Hopkins, Leonard, Robinson, Zale, (maybe not Graziano), Griffith, and so many others would all destroy him. I know boxing is subjective but this is just ridiculous. by The Ring. Anything can happen in a fight and as shown many times in boxing, a fighter is often better than his record shows. They are just taking decisions robberies or not as if they are always just. Lara, after all, was the victim of a disputed decision loss when he fought Alvarez five years ago in Las Vegas. I hope you can see where I'm coming from. They have no idea what they are watching when they see a match and judge only and I mean only by what the commentators are saying. That's also another situation that robberies can often cause. However I highly disagree with you. I train hard on defense as I believe boxing is a sport of defense not necessarily offense. Round 4 That's just because I always feel sympathy for that fighter and can't imagine how he must feel. Canelo Alvarez def. “The facts don’t lie, I landed more total punches. He was there! Boxing is a subjective sport. have you seen Adrien Broner vs Carlos Molina. Original Air Date: Jun 27, 2014. I have a very different opinion to you about bad judging. Mayweather as usual is doing nothing but tapping the pads and blabbing about how he is TBE, what bullshit. You can usually tell if a split decision is deserving to be a split decision if its close. However when Trout lost a close decision to Alvarez that went down as a win for Canelo but it wasn't robbery because there were a lot of close rounds and the fight could go either way. A good case is Lara vs Canelo. He doesn't have the stamina and he will be wide open more often and if he is open more often then chino will have more counter punching opportunities, if MM has more countering opportunities then he will be able to tee off on Floyd and if he hits Floyd with a hayemaker then it is over. The thing that your not looking at is that 90% of the fans in boxing today are what's called "casual fans". In my opinion, the reason that Danny Garcia had a rough night against Mauricio Herrera is because he underestimated him. Canelo Alvarez (44-1-1) escaped with a split-decision victory over Erislandy Lara (19-2-2) on Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, but many observers thought Lara … You say that you have been told you are a natural and yet you've been boxing under a year. If maidana is defensive in the second fight then how the hell does Floyd win? James Kirkland by third-round KO: May 9, 2015: Canelo Alvarez def. In the gym I'm often doing sessions where I throw up combinations, dodge, repeat and am working as hard as I can in and out of the gym. He tried to make the fight. I agree with most of what you said in your last comment, I'm glad that you have looked carefully enough to realise that Floyd didn't work him out like some people think. Now he has to go back to the starting point, take those punches all over again and for what?! My other mates have come down to the gym and given a good workout but have had no interest in boxing with any technique and no interest in boxing regularly. I'm not sure how you got 116-112. I am doing everything I can to be the best boxer I can be. The reason why Floyd never gets heat is because all of his casual fans are drinking his Kool-Aid and fail to realize that what they call boxing for him they call running for Lara. I think that Maidana had shit defence in that fight and he spent too long picking his shots in round 7. Canelo vs Lara: Scoring controversy Hot. Let me put it this way, parents make kids do the right things, there is no supervision, they are going to be kids. I truly believe that he is just inexperienced and doesn't have much history with boxing or scoring it, unlike you and I. I agree with everything you said about holding. Saul Alvarez takes on WBA Super Welterweight Champion Erislandy Lara in a non-title catchweight bout at 155 pounds. It is so hard to get a proper fight nowadays. Maidana has also been moving his head. The reason why is because they had all reached star status in their career, Lara hasn't and probably will never reach this status. Lara landed around 8 more punches according to copubox. Who know in a couple of years I may have a pro career but I feel like I need to have an actual amaeture match before I make that life changing decision. If there were ever a fight where there is any doubt that I didn't lose and the judges count it against me I will hang up the gloves. There is no supervision. And it makes me sick that the assholes on this site are supporting that by scoring it in favor of Alvarez. However if Floyd panickes because he can't find any more ways to win, gets scared and on instinct runs away with a tight guard then Maidana will win a decision. That sick body shot tho. square off in this highly […] They want "A+ Players" like Canelo, Mayweather, and Cotto to be promoted. The scorecards were a lot wider than they should have been but the fight is so much closer than it looked on paper. He should get a Canelo rematch. The thing that most people don't understand about bad judging,is that it goes far beyond the actual fight. There is also the case that big time boxers will only promote marketable fighters. I still believe it was a robbery make no mistake, but I understand why you don't want to argue it. For those moron who think Lara on the fight the stats don't agree with you Canelo out landed or matched Lara in 5 rounds plus another 2 where he only landed 1 less punch. It's going fine thanks mate, I'm currently working on my defensive skills and trying hard to maintain my hand speed, fitness, power and footwork, I'm definitely improving. I disagree, in my opinion the reason Floyd won many of the last few rounds was because Maidana was exhausted from throwing so many punches early. Anyways I do believe Floyd is a great fighter, just not as much as many believe. Álvarez fought Erislandy Lara on 12 July 2014, at the MGM Grand in a non-title match. Armstrong vs Farley one day. How about you, when do you reckon you're fighting? Although I must say Maidana has a much better stamina than Floyd. Canelo Alvarez against Erislandy Lara was always going to be a close fight, the odds before the fight reflected this; Canelo was a slight favourite although many … Canelo vs. Lara Round by Round Results: On Saturday, July 12th, fight fans will finally get to see how the Saul “Canelo” Alvarez vs. Erislandy Lara fight plays out. Can you honestly tell me that Manny Pacquiao went home feeling like a loser after his first fight with Bradley? From big promise to even bigger stages In an intense contrast of styles, Lara moved on from Angulo to face dynamic boxer Austin Trout, beating him in a 12-round unanimous decision in Brooklyn, New York, in December 2013. It is great that he will play the role of Floyd when he sparrs with Maidana. I have no idea when I will have the opportunity to compete. Believe it or not for what its worth I think that most girls don't mind boxing as a sport. If your truly confident in your score and you believe that your right you'll explain why you scored 8-4. The first clear Mayweather round was round 7. I'm training to have rock solid defense and crushing combinations. Personally I think Lara may be one of the most underrated boxers out there right now. That terrible, sickening 117-111 for canelo was just the final straw. There are issues such as moving up in weight, to plainly feeling that you just aren't as good as the other fighter. What a fight between the top junior middleweight contenders Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and Erislandy Lara. I can totally see where you are coming from. You did bring up rematches and sure they happen, but they also don't. I'm not saying that split decisions should be banned but I do think that when you have a 50-50 fight that so many people either can't split or constantly dispute it becomes all about luck. Always good to make sure people don't get too upset by apologizing. “Before the decision was announced, I felt 100% confident I won the fight,” said Lara. He has been working on speed bags and also maintaining his power by going to work on a few heavy bags. Closer to making all of that money and realizing his dreams! I think that chino will beat Floyd. Recommended for hardcore Canelo fans, 99.9 percent of which are bitches. After what everyone agrees was a close fight between Canelo Alvarez and Erislandy Lara, RingTV.com sought the scores of 22 boxing observers to see which way their scorecards went. I thought that it was a close fight and LM scored it a shutout for Broner. Although I never saw Trout vs Alvarez I did see him stop LaPotto in another impresive performance. It's true that not all split decisions are like this but many are so this can make it so frustrating when you feel the wrong man gets the decision. We even talked about how none of our friends really KNOW boxing, the reason is because they too are called casual fans. That's really is the whole point in boxing, to keep punching and hit without being hit. When one judge has it lopsided and the two others have it close something is wrong. I totally agree that Mikey Garcia would be all over Floyd if he was still featherweight. TM & © 2021 BoxingScene.All Rights Reserved. 87 Shares. Canelo Alvarez (left) takes a hit from Erislandy Lara. This is not a Bradley v pacquaio or a rios v abrill type of controversy. I have absolutely no problem with that. Billy Joe Saunders will get destroyed if he dares to share a ring with him. Erislandy Lara went old-school several months ago by calling out Saul “Canelo” Alvarez in the middle of Canelo’s post-fight press conference after his win over Alfredo Angulo. If your so confident in your score mattgalvin you'll tell me why you scored it like this. Firstly pal I do not have to explain my scoring to you. While on the other hand they don't care what happens to the "B Players" like Lara, Molina, and Trout. In the final installment of ALL ACCESS, SHOWTIME SPORTS takes you behind the scenes into the dramatic and intense preparations of fight week with Mexican superstar Canelo Alvarez and Cuban southpaw Erislandy Lara, including never-before-seen footage from fight night and the rarely seen aftermath of world … This has been the problem with boxing for forever. Boxing is a sport that is easily corruptible because its made up of people. I'm still sparring the big guys. Lara went into his next career fight with a record of 17-1-2 and took this to 18 wins with a win against Alfredo Angulo on June 8th, 2013. When do you think you might be competing? Before Gennady Golovkin experienced the frustrations of allowing judges decide his fights against Saul “Canelo” Alvarez, Erislandy Lara could have provided him a first-hand account. Email. If Floyd decides to show some grit for once and fight back then trust me he is getting knocked out. He was knocking at the door! Marcos Maidana vs Floyd Mayweather 2 will be interesting for a couple of reasons. I do apologize though for asking you to explain yourself when you didn't want to. I love boxing, but despise bad judging. My point is that rematches do happen, but they are usually between two equally promotable fighters that both want to fight each other. Would you mind explaining how you came up with that? I don't remember by how much I remember Broner only edging it on my score card by one or two points at best. People get points for holding all the time and it wins them big matches for some odd reason (Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvin Hagler) As a warrior myself I also believe in defense (some fighters can't keep their hands up) but I also believe in aggression. So please convince me, convince me 116-112 is a respectable score. The one thing could say about that fight is that you have much more talent. However if the fight is close and the judges all have 7-5 scores then it is just disputable. As we have already talked about Levi Martinez was biased and only looked at Canelo during a match. That night, Lara picked the fight of his life and, because of it, got a career-defining opportunity. Lara’s strengths. I improved rapidly and I'm now a decent young boxer. Alvarez (44-1-1, 31 knockouts) won by scores of 115-113 and 117-111 on the official cards of judges Dave Moretti and Levi Martinez, with Jerry Roth scoring it for Lara, 115-113. Austin Trout by unanimous decision: April 20, 2013 There was one robbery scorecard in that fight giving Canelo a 118-109. I still agree with you about how much people generally read into boxing fights nowadays. So many boxers utilized that exact same style of staying out of the other man's punches while throwing and hitting him with his own. To be honest that's really one of the better things about boxing being able to argue close decisions. When you have a joke of a decision in boxing that goes down as a robbery it is known to even casual boxing fans. I agree with most of what you said about robberies. No holding, no hiding away from the action. All the more reason to credit Lara, I thought he took those hard body shots very well. Boxing is a landscape that is easily corruptible as it is populated by human beings where there is no "parenting" involved. Get in on the latest boxing conversations in our Forum and comment on articles. 13. What isn't the point is hit, hold kill a couple seconds repeat. Just 2 warriors battling from first bell to last. Posted by christiangiudice on Jul 12, 2014 in Articles, Uncategorized | 0 comments . When a fighter loses a fight he goes to the back of the line, and to get back to where he was, that golden place that he was at, he must endure dozens of punches all over again. Canelo had 36 power punch edge and was the come forward fighter it was easy win for Canelo. Jul. Erislandy Lara earned a unanimous decision win over Vanes Martirosyan on Saturday in a fight that featured little action and lots of fouls. Canelo, the 23-year-old Mexican superstar, is 44-1-1 with 31 KOs, and Lara, 31, who defected twice from Cuba, is 19-2-2 with 12 KOs. He is overhyped and I plainly cannot buy into him. Erislandy misses a left/right, but makes Canelo miss wildly with a left hook at the bell. Only Lara was eligible to win the title after Alvarez weighed 4.6 pounds over the weight limit. Lara had the edge in total punches landed, Canelo had the edge in power shots landed. ThrowdownFantasy.com Stats Report. I don't quite agree with what you said about the person that is robbed. Human beings are going to be human beings and if you put them in a landscape in which there is no seperation between the so-called administrators, the people that make the rules, and the people that make the money, there is no seperation things are gonna happen. Closer round than the first two but Lara is still in control. It's really annoying because I'm boxing in a very quiet division. I suppose it is interesting to debate and discuss different views about certain boxing fights. I hope Trout can get back on the winning side of things again. Photo gallery: Canelo Alvarez vs. Erislandy Lara. Lara made Canelo miss and pay for it constantly and it is for that reason that I can not possibly conceive the idea that Canelo won. Hey Matt I feel like we got off to a bad start. What a fight that would be. Who do you think you are?.I see you scored it by an even wider margin for Lara. Back to what I was saying earlier Levi Martinez blew Lara's big chance of making it big. You make a good point about how there are a lot of casual fans nowadays. Who would you rather have been, Trout or Pacquiao? WhatsApp. Lara had the edge in total punches landed, Canelo had the edge in power shots landed. He was already there! Do you think that Chris Eubank Jr may be the best boxer on the planet. Álvarez vs. Lara. He boxed very smart against Canelo, Trout, and Angulo (even if he got knocked down in the last one) What bothers me about Canelo is that you hear him say that he wants to be considered one of the all time greats. 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